Re: Possible Permutations

Posted by Greg on October 19, 1999 at 21:10:21:

In Reply to: Possible Permutations posted by Clarissa on October 19, 1999 at 16:46:22:

: I've been trying to rationalize out just how many color combinations are really possible, and so far I have come up with this:

: 1. AZ indicates 5000 (give or take) possible combos.

: 2. First, any fish is going to be either Tux or Non-Tux.

: 3. Each of those fish can be either Mosaic or Non-Mosaic.

: 4. Each of THOSE fish can either have Colored Peduncle or Non-Colored.

: 5. Each of the fish that HAVE a colored peduncle will show either yellow or blue as peduncle coloration.

: I count 22 factors, which by simple division, leaves just over 225 different color combos which could appear. That's even less than the 256 colors of the AZ palette!! (OK, that could be because a good many of the colors in a 256-color palette are virtually useless.) My understanding of permutations may be flawed, but what I'm seeing (and have suspected) is that the ACTUAL number of COLOR combinations possible is far fewer than AZ wants us to think. Has anyone else subjected this concept to a logical breakdown? What did you come up with?

: Also, has anyone experienced any "spontaneous" mutations, or is that hoping for too much?

: Clarissa

I think that they are using that number (5000) as a combination of all possibilities, not just color. If we make the following assumptions on physical attributes, we can come up with a large number of different guppies:

Shade of red in the tail (3 shades)
Shade of yellow in the tail (3 shades)
Shade of blue in the tail (3 shades)
Peduncle color (I believe that this is a combination of 3 color genes like the tail)
Tail pattern (large spot, small spot, plain)
Body pattern (Tux, Cobra, plain)

The total number of combinations here would be: 3x3x3x3x3x3x3x3=6561.

Just a theory.

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: : I've been trying to rationalize out just how many color combinations are really possible, and so far I have come up with this:

: : 1. AZ indicates 5000 (give or take) possible combos.

: : 2.  First, any fish is going to be either Tux or Non-Tux.

: : 3.  Each of those fish can be either Mosaic or Non-Mosaic.

: : 4.  Each of THOSE fish can either have Colored Peduncle or Non-Colored.

: : 5.  Each of the fish that HAVE a colored peduncle will show either yellow or blue as peduncle coloration.

: : I count 22 factors, which by simple division, leaves just over 225 different color combos which could appear.  That's even less than the 256 colors of the AZ palette!!  (OK, that could be because a good many of the  colors in a 256-color palette are virtually useless.)  My understanding of permutations may be flawed, but what I'm seeing (and have suspected) is that the ACTUAL number of COLOR combinations possible is far fewer than AZ wants us to think.  Has anyone else subjected this concept to a logical breakdown?  What did you come up with?

: : Also, has anyone experienced any "spontaneous" mutations, or is that hoping for too much?

: : Clarissa

: I think that they are using that number (5000) as a combination of <u>all</u> possibilities, not just color. If we make the following assumptions on physical attributes, we can come up with a large number of different guppies:

: Shade of red in the tail (3 shades)
: Shade of yellow in the tail (3 shades)
: Shade of blue in the tail (3 shades)
: Peduncle color (I believe that this is a combination of 3 color genes like the tail)
: Tail pattern (large spot, small spot, plain)
: Body pattern (Tux, Cobra, plain)

: The total number of combinations here would be: 3x3x3x3x3x3x3x3=<u>6561</u>.

: Just a theory.


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