Re: Repeated genetics...

Posted by Don on February 13, 2000 at 11:17:01:

In Reply to: Re: Repeated genetics... posted by Jevan on February 12, 2000 at 23:09:46:

It gets even better!

When TransWarp was still "in development" :-) I was working with a strain of albinos that AZ had decided was 50% sterile. In frustration I tried going forward one year to get a brood (Ok darn it, how 'bout 1 year!) and stumbled upon that portion of the process. I remembered the original Albino20 file I had purchased that had an old pair that I had been unable to breed (male over 300 days and female about that old). I reinstalled AZ, reloaded the Albino20 file and ran that old pair through TransWarp. Five out of six times AZ tried to kill off one or both of the pair but TransWarp did eventually produce fry. Just to spite AZ I filed away six batches of fry from this pair. I matured each batch thinking that all males would be similiar in every batch. Hah! Every batch was different. Pinks in one, yellows in another, reds, mixed....each batch different. I surmised that this wasn't genetics but a peek into AZ's "data base" for the pair. Think about the possibilities and try it out.

I use this technique to "search the gene pool". As an example, let's take German Tuxedos. Take a random pair of tux from the German Tuxedo file. Mate them repeatedly using TransWarp (they never age, you can mate them forever!). Some pairs will give a limited number of phenotypes for your viewing pleasure. Other pairs will produce several different phenotypes in each batch of young. Now it gets better still. Remember, we are not trying to fix a strain, still picking random pairs just to see what's "in there". If you take one or more pairs from the F1, F2, et cetera and mate them multiple times AZ "may" cough up even more phenotypical goodies. This does not apply to every random pair every time. Some pairs, however, will "expose" AZ's database of phenotypes. (This can be really fun with Mosaics and Cobras.) Try it out!

No need to make copies of a pair, just file each batch of young away in a folder within the items folder called "exploring tux" or something. I label the .fsh file with the phenotypes produced. Example, "6ma 1 wh 1 blu 2 blu spot 2 sil". This is much easier to do than explain or describe. Try it out!

Another application of this process has been incorporated into the angelfish version of TransWarp. Check out the link below regarding breeding for VCP scores and "sports".

Don

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: It gets even better!

: When TransWarp was still "in development" :-) I was working with a strain of albinos that AZ had decided was 50% sterile.  In frustration I tried going forward one year to get a brood (Ok darn it, how 'bout 1 year!) and stumbled upon that portion of the process. I remembered the original Albino20 file I had purchased that had an old pair that I had been unable to breed (male over 300 days and female about that old).  I reinstalled AZ, reloaded the Albino20 file and ran that old pair through TransWarp.  Five out of six times AZ tried to kill off one or both of the pair but TransWarp did eventually produce fry. Just to spite AZ I filed away six batches of fry from this pair.  I matured each batch thinking that all males would be similiar in every batch.  Hah!  Every batch was different.  Pinks in one, yellows in another, reds, mixed....each batch different.  I surmised that this wasn't genetics but a peek into AZ's "data base" for the pair.  Think about the possibilities and try it out.  

: I use this technique to "search the gene pool".  As an example, let's take German Tuxedos.  Take a random pair of tux from the German Tuxedo file.  Mate them repeatedly using TransWarp (they never age, you can mate them forever!).  Some pairs will give a limited number of phenotypes for your viewing pleasure.  Other pairs will produce several different phenotypes in each batch of young.  Now it gets better still.  Remember, we are not trying to fix a strain, still picking random pairs just to see what's "in there".  If you take one or more pairs from the F1, F2, et cetera and mate them multiple times AZ "may" cough up even more phenotypical goodies.  This does not apply to every random pair every time.  Some pairs, however, will "expose" AZ's database of phenotypes. (This can be really fun with Mosaics and Cobras.)  Try it out!

: No need to make copies of a pair, just file each batch of young away in a folder within the items folder called "exploring tux" or something.  I label the .fsh file with the phenotypes produced.  Example, "6ma 1 wh 1 blu 2 blu spot 2 sil".  This is much easier to do than explain or describe. Try it out! 

: Another application of this process has been incorporated into the angelfish version of TransWarp. Check out the link below regarding breeding for VCP scores and "sports".  

: Don
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